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Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-13T22:59:04+01:00

OK, I believe you...

so let's try....

Statistik: Verfasst von cdric — 13. Feb 2017, 22:59

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-13T20:35:31+01:00

Because it's you

S32 + JIVE 100LV

log file header:

Quote:

S/N R2F01208 hardware version 3.0.4
(device marked as QC and functional tests passed)
Monday 02/13/2017 20:25:31 (mmdd20yy-24h RTC) S32T language: English
S32 (JLog3) R2prototyping You think of it, we make it. http://r2prototyping.ch http://j-log.eu
Support: http://support.r2ag.ch http://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=257 http://j-log.eu/forum
devID:00416609 enabling:F firmware bootloader:1.9 app:1.33 | BOR3 wu|sb|pvd|brr|VOS Vs/3:0.31V (3=0.31V 4=5.54V 8=0.17V)
SETUP name:"Cedric" esc:<JIVE> tel:/box: poles:10 ratiotype:2 (ratio:1:10.0 pinion:0 maingear:0) l/s:1/1 shunt:0
Sensor Fusion HV2BEC:0/0 CVS16:0/0/0 BID:0 C200:0 Temp:0 Volt1:0 Volt2:0 Pulse1:0 Pulse2:0 RPM:0 Pspeed:0 Gspeed:0 Aline:0/0 Morse
Alarm Thresholds cap:0 capPl:0/capPh:0 capR:0 ubat:0 ubec:0 tfet:0 tbec:0 imot:0 t1M:0/0 t2M:0/0 t3M:0/0 erpmm:0 erpmM:0 spdm:0 spdM:0
Enjoy your Hobby!

$1;1;0.00;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0
$1;1;3.88;0;0;0;0;250;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;29;0;29;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;-999;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0;0 JIVE fw version: 09
$2;1;3.88;30;30;555;16;0;0;0;0;0;29;0;0;0

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 13. Feb 2017, 20:35

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-13T19:57:21+01:00

Shop, Kontronik... Ask your hairdresser.

This is the manual page for the JIVE, old as the coal, for JLog2.0, 2.5, 2.6. JLog2.0 came 2011: http://j-log.eu/jlog-in-funktion/sensoren/esc/jive
What do you think why speaking about ImotShunt, mAh etc..?

This is the archive for JLog1, 2010, older as the coal: http://j-log.eu/archive/past/old-jlog1/datenauswertung
What do you think where "I-Motor" comes from?

The sensor for measuring of Imot in the JIVE is a well-known topic for 7 yrs..
- because it is only a trace on the PCB, uncalibrated, not temperature-compensated (JLog does it afterwards)
- because it is measured in a motor phase line: PWM duty and frequency interfere with the ADC conversion time. Result is: It delivers house numbers. (Jlog converts the house numbers to real current values) Look: http://j-log.eu/jlog2-en/faq/imot-shunt-with-jive-and-overall-mah-accumulation

You probably noticed already: Made with a JIVE 100LV

- Ibec (BEC output current) is measured as RDSon in a JIVE. There is a FET switch behind the BEC. The drain-source resistance of the FET is the current sensor.
Btw: The JIVE Pro does not have this switch anymore but an ideal diode. Same in a KOSMIK. The diode is instantly on after powerup whereas the switch in a JIVE is later activated by a 2nd MCU, ATMEL ATmega168. So there is the reason for the "BEC design flaw" in Jpro and KOSMIK. The actual cause is already existing in the old JIVE. Only, it couldn't come to that negative effect because of the delayed switching, the BEC starts load-free.

JIVE Pro has no sensor for Ibec (BEC output current) but the KOSMIK has: a 1 milliOhm resistor plus op amp.

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 13. Feb 2017, 19:57

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-13T19:14:28+01:00

Hi,

Oui c'est clair....

The documentation is really clear for me.

But I ask the question to a german shop, and he answered me: The JIVE 100 LV do not have any sensors, only the HV PRO version and the KOSMIK have sensors.

Have you tried the S32 with a JIVE 100 LV? is there a video available somewhere?

I also asked directly to Kontronik, waiting for the answer. It will definetely close the topics

Sorry to insist, but I want to be sure before use my budget

Statistik: Verfasst von cdric — 13. Feb 2017, 19:14

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T22:46:01+01:00

D'accord?

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 12. Feb 2017, 22:46

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T22:15:10+01:00

Oui, oui, oui, nous obtenons des données pour l'électricité à partir de JIVE 100LV. Moteur et BEC.

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 12. Feb 2017, 22:15

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T22:00:18+01:00

No current sensor? Where is that claimed? It w'd in any case be BS. Current sensing for motor and BEC output.

See the table.

Quote:

If you have, do not hesitate to share

I have and I shared it. That's it.

You're confusing me a bit.. Are you confused by the symbols in the table?

"X" == YES, have it
"-" == NO, don't have

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 12. Feb 2017, 22:00

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T21:42:44+01:00

Hi,

Yes I saw the table for each ESC.... I was just asking because I've seen that the JIVE LV 100 (http://www.kontronik.com/en/products/sp ... 00-lv.html) do not have current sensor...

I was unable to find information about sensor for this ESC...

If you have, do not hesitate to share

Statistik: Verfasst von cdric — 12. Feb 2017, 21:42

Re: Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T20:51:40+01:00

Cedric,

Yes, this JIVE is supported as well. (no wonder, 7 yrs ago JLog1 started with that ESC ) All "JIVE"s before the "JIVE Pro" are supported as well, no matter if an addon like "power" or "heli" appears in the name.

Generally, check this http://j-log.eu/s32/s32-en

Here http://j-log.eu/s32/s32-en/s32terminal/ (as well as in the terminal in "step by step" --> "ESC/FC info: data items") you'll find amongst other things this table:

Statistik: Verfasst von dl7uae — 12. Feb 2017, 20:51

Kontronik JIVE 100 LV

2017-02-12T20:41:30+01:00

Hello,

I would like to know if the Kontronik JIVE 100LV can be used with an S32? Does this ESC have current sensor, and voltage sensor?
In S32 terminal, there is 3 options, one for Kontronik JIVE PRO, one for Kontronik JIVE/HELI Jive and KOSMIK.
It is not clear for me.

Thank you in advance

Statistik: Verfasst von cdric — 12. Feb 2017, 20:41